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Could anyone who already knows Korean, Japanese or Chinese comment on how much is missing in the English language in terms of go material?

 
 
   

Question: Say I want to have access to go books in another language.

How much of the gist of a go text can you get by just learning a few go symbols? 20%? 80%?

How much of the gist of a go text can you get by learning a few go symbols, and learning basic grammar and how to look up words in a dictionary?

Would anyone care to try to rank English, Korean, Japanese and Chinese in order from least go books to most go books?

Could anyone who already knows Korean, Japanese or Chinese comment on how much is missing in the English language in terms of go material?

Which of Korean, Japanese and Chinese would be the easiest to learn for someone with fluent English, some college German, and a smattering of informal Vietnamese (which is tonal, which I find fun-but-hard)?


Answer: A lot of people whose native language is not English (or Japanese, Korean or Chinese) are buying go books in English and considering themsleves lucky that they don't have to learn an Asian language. There are already a huge number of books available in English covering nearly all the available knowledge of the game. A lot of the best books available have been translated into English thanks to a small number of dedicated people working for next to nothing.

There are a plethora of books available in Asian languages most of which are a complete waste of time. Often they are not written by the professionals whose photo appears on the cover. However there are still gems that are not translated. Most of these are collections or dictionaries which can be appreciated with a minimum of language knowledge.

In a Chinese book (or Japanese with some grammar knowledge) if the text predominates over diagrams then you need a fairly large level of knowledge (2000+ characters) to get any benefit from them. However, if there is greater than 50% of the page area given over to diagrams then the explanations can often be adequately appreciated with the knowledge of a few (<100 characters). The most important characters are the colours, some names, words like sente, gote, good, bad, the numbers etc.Looking up words in a dictionary is very slow and really is of benefit only if you are actively trying to further your knowledge of the language. Chinese grammar is sufficiently straightforward that you wouldn't need to worry, but some grammar knowledge (word endings etc) is helpful with Japanese. Korean books are written in a phonetic script and more grammar/basic language knowledge is requiredI don't know about Korean but there are definitely more books available in Japanese than in Chinese. Many Japanese books have been translated into Chinese, but the reverse is rare. However Chinese books are abundant enough for the difference to be unimportant. Chinese books tend to be cheaper, Japanese books generally have higher printing qualityNot enough for the effort of learning a language to be valuable at sub-6 dan level in terms of go improvement My theory is that all languages are equally difficult to learn. However languages that are related to languages that you already know may be easier.

In terms of learning enough to help with appreciating go books then Chinese may be easiest to start with. You just learn the meaning of the characters and don't worry about grammar, pronunciation etc.

If you are seriously wanting to learn the language then you had best choose the language that is most available to you. If there is a Chinese, Korean or Japanese club near you (or large number of some Asian group in your club) then choose that language. I am sure that as you progress you will find people happy to help you.

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