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Question: It seems to me that many nouns in English appear in plurals only and are not countable. Nouns such as "manners", "odds", "riches" are treated as plurals, i.e, they use plural verbs, and, as far as my limited scope of reading is concerned, they don't seem to be countable, i.e, no one seem to ever say "two manners", "two odds", "two riches" etc.,

What often makes me feel like a fool is: lots of English nouns are marked in dictionaries (Longman, Collins Cobuild Dictionaries) and grammar books as [P], which means "always used as plurals", for example, "credentials", "clothes", "dregs" but I've seen these nouns used as countables, "two credentials", "two clothes", "a few dregs"...etc.,

Now, if these nouns can have quantitatives such as two, three, four, and "a few" etc., in front of them, logically, it should also be possible to place "a, an" and "one " in front of them. But it nevertheless sound absurd to me to say "a clothes", "a dregs" "a credentials" (or can I just say "a dreg", "a credential", such as "The man didn't presented a verifiable credential."?)

And as dictionaries define "archives" as "a place storing historical materials...", can I say "an archive" and "two archives"? And what about "waters" "outskirts"?

What's the hell with English nouns? They are drving me nuts (singular or plural?)!


Answer: Manners and odds can be singular nouns and can be countable, but I don't believe that rich can ever be "a rich" -- at least not in idiomatic English. Credentials is of course always a plural, but it is perfectly normal AmE to use it as a singular, e.g., "I have a lifetime teaching credential for the California Community College system". Most of the time -- in my remembrance of things past -- people say "credentials", as in, "What are your credentials?" It is possible to have "two credentials", e.g., one for K-12 and one for community college. "Clothes", however, is just like "furniture": you can have lots of clothes and furniture, but you cannot have one or two or either one. "dregs" can be singular: "2 : the poorest or most undesirable part of anything -- usually used in plural " [MW3rdIUD] It seems as if you can say "a dreg is left over from last night's party", but you cannot put "a" in front of any of these words when they are plural. Yes, there is, e.g., the Bettman (sp?) Archive, and "an outskirt" (" a part remote from the center : BORDER, FRINGE " MW3rdIUD). You can also say "I'll have a water and a beer" in standard idiomatic English. "nuts" is an adjective here, not a noun, so it's neither singular nor plural; it can be plural when used as a noun, though. It means "crazy" or "nutty".

Don't think too hard about all the nuttiness in English grammar. Just read a lot more English and pay close attention to how words are used by good writers of the language. Then you will learn all you need to know about English grammar.

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